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Terror
05 Jul 2005, 13:02
Game Masters

Tournament Rules



A. General rules to all forms of Gameplay, Cheating and similar related.





Every match will have an admin. The admin�s job is to make sure the matches go as planned and to take screenshots / game recording of the match.
Admin will spectate the game to identify cheating. The admin will not stop a match due to cheating ~ but may display warning messages. If cheating does not stop after the warning messages ~ the Clan caught cheating may be disqualified out of the tournament. Game Masters (or �GM�) will attempt to watch the replays to confirm the Clan is cheating and will make the replay available for download where cheating has been confirmed.
Every match taking place, is recommended to have at minimum two spectators which do not form part of either Clan in the match. This will help confirm cheating.
Should the Clan within the match feels that the opponent Clan has cheated. Do not apply this discussion within the game ~ YOU MAY NOT ACCUSE ANY CLAN OF CHEATING DURING OR AFTER A GAME. An email must be sent to play@gamemasters.co.za ~ in the email ~ a reason for suspected cheating should be made, and the matches and dates must be included. A replay will be watched (where available) and a final decision will be made whether some form cheating was present in the game. The Clan found cheating will be disqualified.
Admin will reserve the right to scan you for cheats with whatever means possible.
The following is a list of types of cheating:

Aimbots ~ third party software or mods placed in the game which allows a player to aim accurately and/or fire on time to have a better chance of fragging an opponent.
Autofire ~ third party software or mods placed in the game which allows a player to fire automatically when the opponent is in site and allow the player to have a better chance of fragging an opponent.
Wallhacks ~ is a cheat where people can see through walls, basically seeing where ever the opponent is anywhere on the map.
Informers ~ This is where spectators or dead �spectators� roam the map and switch between players to feed the player(s) with information that would help the player(s) win the game. Whether or not the spectator(s) are apart of the Clan within the tournament match ~ the Clan will be disqualified and the spectator(s) may be permanently banned in accordance to the rules applied by the servers ownership rules. GM will strongly act according to enforcing permanent BAN of such �informers�.
MOD cheats ~ Mods loaded that are not set by the server or are Mods that are not generally accepted as a non cheat mod� where this is detected the Clan will be disqualified.
Other ~ Any other form of software which provides unfair advantage to the player, including exploiting or disabling/bypassing gaming attributes that change player attributes like health, armor, etc.

If you feel that you might have something on your copy of UT2K4 that may construe as cheating please email us at play@gamemasters.co.za to query it effectively.
Matches are to remain balanced. Should a player not be available for a match ~ and the player count is less than four ~ the two Clans may agree on resetting a date for the match. However ~ where there are four or more players per team ~ both Clans are to submit equal players for the game.
Should a player leave during the game ~ the Clan may replace the player with any other player in their Clan. This must be clearly communicated to all the players in the entire match. However ~ player swapping for anything other than a GOOD REASON is not permitted. The admin will ok the player swap ~ due to the reason given. Should the CLAN act without the Admin�s permission ~ the Clan will be disqualified.
If for any reason a player is dropped out of a game without intent ~ the Clan can request a Game Pause until the player has returned or has been replaced. Should the dropped player not be able to be replaced and the Clan only has three available players ~ the match may be rescheduled. However ~ should the Clan have a minimum of four players available the opposing Clan will drop as many players as required to balance the teams. Where it has been suspected that a player has dropped out ~ to enforce rescheduling ~ this may be investigated ~ and will be seen as a form of cheating. The Clan will be disqualified where this has been found the case.
Please keep language clean. Offensive, Derogatory, Slander or sexually explicit language language will not be tolerated ~ and the admin will reserve the right to unbalance teams by kicking out the player not using clean language. With this in mind this is the only rule that will allow a game to continue unbalanced.
A player standing still ~ and not viewed to have the shield gun, lightning gun, sniper rifle or a super weapon may not be fraged, shot at, etc unless you can justify such that the admin agrees that the frag was fair. Players standing still are seen to either have a problem that they cannot play or are still connecting.
Players standing still should switch to the rocket launcher and face themselves either such that they are looking straight down or into the wall where possible.
Pornographic, offensive sprays/nicks may not be used in this tournament.
Team sabotage will not be tolerated. Where the admin sees sabotage ~ the game will be paused ~ and the player will be delt with. Should the player not agree to stop the sabotage ~ the admin will decide whether a tournament reschedule, rebalancing teams or player replacement will take place.
You may not communicate any player's real world personal information within the game.
Spoonerisms may not be used in game
You will agree to the owner�s terms and conditions of the server being used.


B. Team Deathmatch rules and scoring



Teams:-
5 Vs 5 (4 Vs 4 will be excepted where Clans are no bigger than 4 players) Adrenaline:-
On Superweapons:-
Off Fraglimit:-
None Timelimit:-
20 Minutes Weapon Stay:-
Off Translocator:-
Off Throw Weapons:-
On Double Damage:-
On Team Damage:-
100% Damage Tourney Mutator:-
UtComp 1.3 or 1.6



C. Capture the Flag rules and scoring



Teams:-
5 Vs 5 (4 Vs 4 will be excepted where Clans are no bigger than 4 players) Adrenaline:-
On Superweapons:-
On Fraglimit:-
None Timelimit:-
20 Minutes Weapon Stay:-
On Translocator:-
On Throw Weapons:-
On Double Damage:-
On Team Damage:-
Off Tourney Mutator:-
UtComp 1.3 or 1.6

D. Onslaught Rules and scoring



Teams:-
6 Vs 6 (Should a Clan not have 6 Players - an exception might be made on the map and player count) Adrenaline:-
On Superweapons:-
On Fraglimit:-
3 Timelimit:-
20 Minutes (With Heavy Core Drainage) Weapon Stay:-
On Translocator:-
Off Throw Weapons:-
On Double Damage:-
On Team Damage:-
Off Tourney Mutator:-
UtComp 1.3 or 1.6

E. Bombing Run rules and scoring



Teams:-
5 Vs 5 (4 Vs 4 will be excepted where Clans are no bigger than 4 players) Adrenaline:-
On Superweapons:-
On Fraglimit:-
None Timelimit:-
20 Minutes Weapon Stay:-
On Translocator:-
On Throw Weapons:-
On Double Damage:-
On Team Damage:-
Off Tourney Mutator:-
UtComp 1.3 or 1.6

F. General scoring





For every game that you win ~ you will score 2 points.
For every game that you loose ~ you will score 1 point.
General scoring points will be collectively counted from all tiers.
Clan with the highest score ~ regardless of the Tier winners ~ will be seen as the best Clan overall. Tier winners will be seen as the best Clan for that Game Type.
Where there is a tie ~ a final match ~ between the two Clan�s top players will take place on a Duel server with Duel rules. The two players together will decide on the Duel server ~ and the rules applied to that server will be the rules applied to the game.
Every section will have a set lits of maps to play - three of these matches must be played with in each section.
Maps will be preselected per round and will be eliminated for that round once played.

sneaky
05 Jul 2005, 13:55
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Gamos
05 Jul 2005, 13:58
DJ,

2 Spectators from other clans? It is hard enought to organize with 2 clans and dates etc. now we have to arrange 2 other spectators too? Can we just leech whoever is on the DM servers?

DJRob
05 Jul 2005, 13:59
sure - The spectators are just a recommendation really ;) I think we can be happy with any spectators ;) and more than likely - your admin will be one ;) If you don't have a spectator that's fine too - just as long as you have a admin ;)

Elco
05 Jul 2005, 14:00
Players standing still should switch to the rocket launcher and face themselves either such that they are looking straight down or into the wall where possible.

What is this about ?

Shrimp
05 Jul 2005, 14:02
Pornographic, offensive sprays/nicks may not be used in this tournament.



What are sprays? Does that mean no porn-inspired link gun artwork during a match?

DJRob
05 Jul 2005, 14:04
couldn't of "sprayed" it out better myself ;) What are sprays? Does that mean no porn-inspired link gun artwork during a match?

sneaky
05 Jul 2005, 14:04
What is this about ?



rofl, a quick death maybe.

Is there a set maplist at least?

hai2u
05 Jul 2005, 14:32
I think he copy pasted the "spray" thing from some CS page.

Elco
05 Jul 2005, 14:32
Sounds like it :P

DJRob
05 Jul 2005, 14:59
I downloaded a load of rules from lots of places, read through - thought about what would apply to this tournament - and worded things as best as I could in my own words ;)I think he copy pasted the "spray" thing from some CS page.

bl@d3
05 Jul 2005, 18:05
wtf is a "Spoonerisms" and what do you mean by "Sabotage"?

O btw, is spawn raping allowed ? :)

hai2u
05 Jul 2005, 18:09
O btw, is spawn raping allowed ? :)

Probably, or Helix won't get any frags!

Gamos
05 Jul 2005, 18:18
Spoonerism is things like WTF, FFS and alternate spelling like $#1+, Fcuk etc.

hai2u
05 Jul 2005, 18:30
whats wrong with FCUK? I've got two bottles of FCUK.

Gamos
05 Jul 2005, 19:05
Hahaha, yes yes smarty pants. I mean swearing in haxor language.

Boogeyman
05 Jul 2005, 19:39
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The_Basilisk
05 Jul 2005, 19:50
G0 FuC|< Y0ur53lf :/

Target
05 Jul 2005, 20:07
To label an entire clan for spawnraping and assume thats the only way they would get frags is not on. There are those in Helix who are blatant spawn rapers and there are those who do onto others who do onto them.

That's not the only way they get frags. I will spawnrape you if you do it to me. I can hold my own on the battlefield, without spawnraping. I think a more directed approach to the spawnrapers would be better, rather than labeling an entire clan as useless, don't you think Karny. I am part of Helix. Are you calling me a blatant spawnraper and are you saying that's the only way I get frags?

DJRob
05 Jul 2005, 23:40
It's on our website - under the gaming article "Clan Tournament"


Is there a set maplist at least?

Terror
05 Jul 2005, 23:48
To label an entire clan for spawnraping and assume thats the only way they would get frags is not on. There are those in Helix who are blatant spawn rapers and there are those who do onto others who do onto them.

That's not the only way they get frags. I will spawnrape you if you do it to me. I can hold my own on the battlefield, without spawnraping. I think a more directed approach to the spawnrapers would be better, rather than labeling an entire clan as useless, don't you think Karny. I am part of Helix. Are you calling me a blatant spawnraper and are you saying that's the only way I get frags?

He's just messing with you, dont take him seriously- not many people do nowadays- if you dont spawnrape and you know ure clan doesnt then you should have nothing to worry about Target. :)

Target
06 Jul 2005, 09:04
Terror I am very good friends with Karny. I reguarly meet with Karny together with many other Durban online and offline ppl, for supper, lans , etc. So my reply is not in anger towards Karny. I just thought it wrong that he should pick on the clan, but should rather direct his anger towards the individual players he has a problem with.

BTW I take Karny very seriously. He is a very good friend of mine. Your point is taken though on the spawnrapeing issue. :) To a certain extent he is right cause there are members who do blantantly spawnrape. That's a issue between the spawnraped and the spawnraper, not the clan. Quiet frankly I hate spawnrapeing, but as I said if you do it to me I will return the favour. :)

Boogeyman
06 Jul 2005, 09:15
spawnraping is legal..there are no rules that say otherwise all is fair is war..besides spawnrapers do not win matches. I have no idea what the fuss is all about...In my 8 years of playing UT i have never been bothered by spawnrapers.

hai2u
06 Jul 2005, 09:21
9AM phone calls *glares at Target*

So before he reclaims my Kenwood subwoofer..

People who spawn rape are.. {]H[Cataphract, ]H[ellboy, ]H[sneaky, ]H[TheProven} which is pretty much Helix.UT.Players - Target.

<Insert flamewar here>

Cataphract
06 Jul 2005, 10:21
ME? I always GET spawnraped, damnit! I only ever shoot at people holding the shield up when I saw them running out of ammo, and I don't mean assault rifle bullets.

GunJitsu
06 Jul 2005, 10:48
Karny is just looking for shit, go bother a toilet.

hai2u
06 Jul 2005, 11:16
ME? I always GET spawnraped, damnit! I only ever shoot at people holding the shield up when I saw them running out of ammo, and I don't mean assault rifle bullets.

Well, when I spawn, I hold up the shield to stop people from going ape shit and spamming me with rockets, or getting caught in a cross fire... Numerous times (I'm talking about the people in that list) I'll spawn, the person will see and leave me, and as I turn around to run for a weapon they shoot me in the back. Hows that for sportsmanship.

Terror
06 Jul 2005, 11:43
cmon, if someone spawns infront of you in TDM , WHAT DO YOU DO ?? U shoot the shit out of him. This is a game, getting the highest score in TDM games is the object. I know for sure that when a good player spawns infront of me , he "KNOWS" how to escape with out being fragged. Thats the logistics of the game, if you're good - you'll know how not to get raped, if you suck- then i suppose you'll just have to work harder to learn how NOT too get spawn raped.

Nuff said- This was the lesson i had to learn very quickly when i moaned about being spawnraped- its like an ultimatum, DO OR DIE !

Target
06 Jul 2005, 11:49
Boogeyman I take it you are a l33t player who can handle himself pretty well on the battlefield. Cool. I on the on the other hand sux. I can't for the life of me understand what sort of skill is involved in spawnrapeing. There is skill involved when one tries to not be spawnraped, but that's about it. Also you are right there is no rule that says you should not spawnrape, but does that make it right. Why don't we all start useing the "Legal " center view button from now on then.

sneaky
06 Jul 2005, 11:52
If you constantly get spawn raped you are doing something wrong :D BTW I resent your statement, cant say I can deny it though :P

But seriously if there are 10 plus people on a map and its not a very big map its inevitable, I usually leave people with assault rifles alone unless they start popping grenades and bullets at me or if the map is no more than a spam fest, which it usually is.

Also running to a weapon when you have spawned will most likely be seen as a act of agression and get your ass blown away. I have in more than one occasion left a spawner only so he can pick up the RL and start blasting away at me.

Cataphract
06 Jul 2005, 12:27
I will not fire at a spawning player unless he's shooting at me or will be armed by the time I get to him.

I absolutely hate it when you spawn and put your shield up, and some desperado starts chasing you all over the place for a cheap frag :(

Target
06 Jul 2005, 12:40
I agree 100% with you Cata. I also do the same thing. In the defense of the spawnrapers however, there is a flip side to this matter. Sometimes you leave a person alone, only to be shot in the back by that person.

Now what do you do in that situation. That could be the reason so many ppl spawnrape. To the top players this is a non issue. They can get them selves out of the situation and it's no use saying "up your game". For heaven's sake I think everyplayer is trying to do that. Some ppl have better hand to eye co ordination than most, so ya.

<A>FluX.v2.0
06 Jul 2005, 12:41
I must say that some people have been very nice to me in the past, i just pull out the shield and shine it and they walk right past me, and I return the favour my going somewhere else.

very decent of you chaps

Cataphract
06 Jul 2005, 12:43
What is DAMN nice though, is turning on a pursuing spawnraper and biting like a TARANTULA! :D

Terror
06 Jul 2005, 12:55
agreed- thats the best part of it all- its all about learning more and more. The gratification comes in when you've eluded your pursuer and then fragged him in return.

Terror
06 Jul 2005, 13:00
. I have in more than one occasion left a spawner only so he can pick up the RL and start blasting away at me.

Thats probably why i shoot first , think later about "what would have happened if i left him to get that RL" This is a game of you either get the frag or be fragged. Courtesy among players is neccessary in certain situations. If anyone here deuls naut, do you really think he isnt going to spawn rape you ? Or if you're playing a TDM game and he just happens to run past you , YOU THINK HE's GOING TO LEAVE YOU TO FRAG HIM, BWUHhaahhaahahahahahh.

Cmon , if you want to not get spawnraped then UT isnt for that person.

Maby chess ?

DJRob
06 Jul 2005, 13:08
I think there are disadvantages and advantages. We all have our reasons to Spawn rape - and a lot have a reason why it shouldn't!

well my 2c ;)

When you spawn you have an assault rifle with grenades. Good practice would make those grenades usefull. I've many time fragged a player with a grenade - lotsa unreal players catch very well.

Also - if you a master at dodging - the Shield gun is brilliant - so been spawn raped - I think depends on your skill levels.

I often run a internal comp for MF when the arena is only assault, or only the shield gun is allowed to be used. I partically do that - so that these two weapons can be learned to be used effectively when spawned. Werewolf has learned well ;)

Also - when spawned - you have like 2seconds, or something like that, of invulnerability - where if you good enough you could dodge out of harms way in those two seconds - I've watched many do it - except you loose the invulnerability if you shoot within those two seconds.

if the admins think spawn rape is a problem-you could just increase the invulnerability time upwards - t 3,4 or 5 seconds. I do that for Deathmatch training.

So maybe - been spawn raped - depends on how you react when you spawn!

Target
06 Jul 2005, 13:22
Ok Terror you win. I quit UT.

Terror
06 Jul 2005, 13:35
lol - :) Your choice ! !

<A>BioGizzard
06 Jul 2005, 13:43
spawnraping is for spineless ppl, to afraid to face their opponents :/

Gamos
06 Jul 2005, 13:46
Just put spawn protection on. It is default not so?

GunJitsu
06 Jul 2005, 14:11
You spawn with an assault rifle with grenades, use them or run away.

sneaky
06 Jul 2005, 14:35
The Assualt rifle, the most revered and lethal weapon ever to grace the online fps scene.

<A>BioGizzard
06 Jul 2005, 14:44
yeah!! let's use the assault rifle, it's like taking a knife to a gun fight, if all else fails u can try throwing it at the opponents...:P

DJRob
06 Jul 2005, 14:56
then they nail you with two enforcers (Gulp)yeah!! let's use the assault rifle, it's like taking a knife to a gun fight, if all else fails u can try throwing it at the opponents...:P

Shrimp
06 Jul 2005, 15:06
...In my 8 years of playing UT i have never been bothered by spawnrapers.

You have been playing Unreal Tournament since 1997/1998? Cool beans, must have been a really early leaked beta ;).

Unless you are referring to Unreal, which must have been on LAN, since the multiplayer was largely broken for many months after it's release.

And on LAN generally someone won't rape you because you'd get up and thump them :P.

Terror
06 Jul 2005, 15:07
You spawn with an assault rifle with grenades, use them or run away.

agreed . . .

DJRob
06 Jul 2005, 15:24
And on LAN generally someone won't rape you because you'd get up and thump them :P.


Shrimp - I worry about you - UT belongs in your PC!

GunJitsu
06 Jul 2005, 15:31
Have you never had a fight with your friends at a lan?

hai2u
06 Jul 2005, 15:51
cmon, if someone spawns infront of you in TDM , WHAT DO YOU DO ??

No.. I'd leave him alone if I knew that he had geniunely spawned - if he starts throwing grenades at me then thats his funeral.

DJRob
06 Jul 2005, 15:57
I remember reading somewhere about a mod that can be added - that causes respawning near Team mates - or in DM it respawns you as far away from all the oponents as possible - I know it was buggy - does anyone know of this mod?

sneaky
06 Jul 2005, 16:55
Ut 2004?

DJRob
06 Jul 2005, 17:24
can't remember - was a couple of months back.

[N]Haja
09 Jul 2005, 22:58
A player standing still ~ and not viewed to have the shield gun, lightning gun, sniper rifle or a super weapon may not be fraged, shot at, etc unless you can justify such that the admin agrees that the frag was fair. Players standing still are seen to either have a problem that they cannot play or are still connecting.


lol, new tactic. Run a bit, stop, run a bit, stop, run a bit stop, until you in there base, then u get the flag,, and repeat till you get back to your base.

Persoanlly, in a "tourney" i will shoot anythintg that isn't wearing an [N] tag. Moving, not moving, lying on the floor, whatever, if hes there, hes gonna get shot :P

Terror
10 Jul 2005, 02:51
rotflol, my sentiments exaclty.

DJRob
10 Jul 2005, 12:30
lol - amendment - player who does this (stand still and out of play) must - communicate to the whole game he is out of play where possible - otherwise toughy!

does that help

Haja']lol, new tactic. Run a bit, stop, run a bit, stop, run a bit stop, until you in there base, then u get the flag,, and repeat till you get back to your base.

Persoanlly, in a "tourney" i will shoot anythintg that isn't wearing an [N] tag. Moving, not moving, lying on the floor, whatever, if hes there, hes gonna get shot :P

Terror
10 Jul 2005, 12:59
I dont understand what you wrote DJ.!?

DJRob
10 Jul 2005, 13:29
edited and sorted - my fingers typed quicker than my thoughtsI dont understand what you wrote DJ.!?

DJRob
11 Jul 2005, 11:12
Guys - just a quick note - I don't think I 've actually said this before - and this will help the pace of the tournament.

In each Tier - I will call for two Clans to organize their game - but if you have any other games pending in the 1/8 and 1/16 sections - please go ahead and set them up and play.

My calling of matches is to make sure the movement of the tourney goes forward. But do not play any 1/4 games until everyone has reached 1/4.

If you unsure what I mean - chech the website - www.gamemasters.co.za (http://www.gamemasters.co.za) - clan tournament and click one of the tiers to see the structure

Gamos
11 Jul 2005, 11:46
DJ, won't you make the Naja tag just [N] ?

Also, what is the link to the updated tiers?

DJRob
11 Jul 2005, 12:14
I'll see what I can do - as the sofware made it look wierd :S

Updated tiers - you just click on the game type tier on the Clan Tournament gaming article article at our website - http://www.gamemasters.co.za/gaming/index.html


DJ, won't you make the Naja tag just [N] ?


Also, what is the link to the updated tiers?

Gamos
11 Jul 2005, 12:18
Aaah thanx, my browser had a cached version.