LCD Screens [Archive] - UnrealZA Forums

Xorac

31 Mar 2005, 11:45

I'm sure that this must've been discussed before but I missed it. I'm considering buying a 17 inch or 19 inch LCD screen but am concerned about the latency issues. Is it really as bad a people say.

The thing is if they say that a LCD screen has a 20 ms delay does is mean that a CRT screen has none? If in fact a CRT screen has a 10 ms delay, it is not really that bad.

Finally if my ping to the server is 50 and my screen latency is 30 will it actually feel like I'm playing with an 80 ping?

[N]Haja

31 Mar 2005, 12:13

yo xor,

Best to ask Cata, as he did a lot of research and stuff a few weeks backn on LCD screens.

I gave him some links to the Dell monitors, which rate very very high.
Probably best to search google, and check toms and other review sites on GAMING lcd's, as they are very nice nowdays, and do not have the inherent problems that plauged lcd's a few years back.

check this post :
http://www.unreal.co.za/forums_old/viewtopic.php?p=65411&highlight=&sid=8d1d0edd7e29c4fbbb18cbfe362c29bb#65411

some info there :)

cya

Shrimp

31 Mar 2005, 12:22

My 17" has a 12ms response time and looks great for gaming.

The higher the response time, the more blurry things will look when (for example) you swing around fast in an FPS.

I would aim for something 16ms or lower. The 'motion blur' effect is still slightly noticable on a 16ms display though.

LeG@cY

31 Mar 2005, 14:15

Yes I was just about to say that Shrimp :P You get LCD monitors with 12 ms Delay. But as I tell everyone, CRT for the moment is still better. One day if there is a 1 Second Delay I'll get it :P

& I'm not sure, but last time I checked CRT monitors had no delay...

Whoop_ass

31 Mar 2005, 14:32

well xor
i actually have a brand new viewsoic in stock if you intersted inbuying it from me.
i would recomend you dont buy anything less than 16ms panel.
the 19"' I am selling is a VP912b
check out www.viewsonic.com (http://www.viewsonic.com)
it is a 12 ms panel:glasses:
far enough CRT ight be slightly better but LCD technolgy is geting there
and you cant begin to compar the picture.
LC is so VIVID and bright

Shrimp

31 Mar 2005, 14:34

dont buy anything less than 16ms panel

You mean anything more than 16ms?

LeG@cY

31 Mar 2005, 14:57

How much do you want for it Whoop ass? :D

By the way I always see people have Viewsonic Monitors... where the hell can I find a place like Rectron that sells them?

Whoop_ass

31 Mar 2005, 15:10

ye sorry shrimp, you now what i mean
Anything higher than 16 ms wont cut it!!!
R5500 Leg
um!!!
Corex use to sell and there a compnay by the name of Proton tech
i think they are the official distributors of viewsonioc......but you have to be a dealer

LeG@cY

31 Mar 2005, 17:20

Ye I'll go register :D Thanx !

I would love to take that LCD of your hands... but ye you know what I'm gonna say... :P

Whoop_ass

31 Mar 2005, 18:13

LOL!!!
ye you like want it for like 2k right!!!!:-)

Cataphract

31 Mar 2005, 23:17

2k! You'll be lucky if you wring R20 out of Legacy.

I have ordered the Dell 19 inch (the 2005 model). According to the Anandtech reviews, it is great for gaming. According to the Anandtech forums it absolutely sucks for gaming and most people are swopping theirs for the Dell 20 inch. I might end up using it just for DVD's and I'll keep gaming on my CRT.

They say that when you convert from CRT to LCD, the ghosting will be noticeable initially but your tolerance increases quickly and you then game comfortably. LCD's are apparently absolute magic with games like Dawn of War.

Does anybody know the brand CMV? You can buy them locally and they claim 8ms response times on their 17" panel.

Shrimp

31 Mar 2005, 23:39

One more thing about LCDs - they are absolutely brilliantly 100% crystal clear and awesomely sharp and crisp.

My games all look like I've turned on some secret super high detail level. Everything also stand out a helluva lot. I can just about reach into my screen and touch the game envinronment :). Looks especially awesome on CTF-Maul ;).

Macera

01 Apr 2005, 02:59

I also want a LCD, lekker light :).

camel

01 Apr 2005, 06:32

One more thing about LCDs - they are absolutely brilliantly 100% crystal clear and awesomely sharp and crisp.

ye, just like an LG :cool:, I've also been looking an LCD, but not for gaming, i've seen games played on lcd, its not there yet.

The thing is if they say that a LCD screen has a 20 ms delay does is mean that a CRT screen has none?
crt time delay is the time it takes an electron to get from the electron gun to the glass (not messurable in miliseconds).

]H[ellboy

01 Apr 2005, 07:07

[N]Haja

01 Apr 2005, 07:53

I have ordered the Dell 19 inch

aaaah, cool cata, trust me, you will not be dissapointed :)

Its an awesome monitor, really really good stuff man.

Please give us a full review when u get it (first impressions, and keep us updated).

Cata, our forum guinea pig (with AllYouCanEat and now Dell monitors :P )

cya

Whoop_ass

01 Apr 2005, 08:40

Xorac

01 Apr 2005, 10:10

Does anybody know the brand CMV? You can buy them locally and they claim 8ms response times on their 17" panel.

These screens also claim to be 8ms:
Hyundai L90D+ "I thought they make cars"
BenQ 937S+
Samsung SyncMaster 913N

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20050215/index.html

]H[ellboy

01 Apr 2005, 10:44

Andre pls bro!!!
Sleeep at home and read properly :D :D :D

does this mean I can't sleep @ your house anymore? :(

camel

01 Apr 2005, 10:49

Hyundai L90D+ "I thought they make cars"

satelites, ships, trucks, home appliances, monitors, and their latest venture was into cars ;)

Whoop_ass

01 Apr 2005, 11:27

ahh Andre...you know you used to sleep in my bed man
dont act shy here on UZA

]H[ellboy

01 Apr 2005, 12:03

ahh Andre...you know you used to sleep in my bed man
dont act shy here on UZA

that's why I'm asking if I still can!

[N]Haja

01 Apr 2005, 12:05

from LCD screens to two fags trying to rekindle their long lost love affair.

Eish, talk about off topic :)

Whoop_ass

01 Apr 2005, 12:22

Lol!

enemyanemone

01 Apr 2005, 15:06

I just changed to LCD and got a cheap one 17" with 10 ms response and I definately cant feel any lag.
And hey, i paid less for it than my 19" normal monitor, and you basically have the same size screen as 19" normal monitor because you have a clear picture up to the sides, whereas even on a flatron (or what they are called) i feel it gets blurry at the sides so you end up with a smaller picture.

]H[ellboy

01 Apr 2005, 15:12

Haja']from LCD screens to two fags trying to rekindle their long lost love affair.

Eish, talk about off topic :)

we're actually in a bitter battle over you Haj...... as you know whoopie is very posessive.... :(

Whoop_ass

01 Apr 2005, 15:37

aha!!!!
ofcourse you can Andre.....
*taps his matress* :-)

[N]Haja

01 Apr 2005, 15:52

oooh, can i be the meat in your loooooooooooove sandwitch? :P

crash

01 Apr 2005, 17:02

FEEL THE GAYNESS...... lol..... moving on.

Zyron

01 Apr 2005, 17:18

China has a 8ms LCD screen :)

Cataphract

01 Apr 2005, 23:24

I'm on holiday in the Cape at the moment so I'm neglecting my guinea pig duties a bit. I'll give allyoucaneat one hell of a run when I get back (and after recovering from the wine estate visits!)

The results of my allyoucaneat experience is rather moot, I guess, since they should have doubled their price now.

The Dell screen should be waiting for me when I get there, and I'll post my impressions of it once I've put it through its paces.

I do have this nagging feeling that one should still wait a couple of months before going LCD.

camel

02 Apr 2005, 07:18

well, i got my wife a second hand 17" samsung lcd screen, gonna get some good nookie for it :P

[N]Haja

02 Apr 2005, 07:25

Cata, I hear you about the few months story. But one thing I learnt when buying my graphics card....You have to eventually jump in the water.
People are always telling you "In a few months NEW technology is coming out" So then you wait, just about to buy this new tech, when ppl say "nooooo, wait a few months MORE and a NEWER model is coming out" etc etc, sometime you just have to buy, do the research and get good stuff :)

And Camel, stop treating your wife like a hoooker, buying her stuff to get sex out of her, i mean no other married man does that *Haja checks wallet to see what he can get tonight from his wife* :)

Whoop_ass

02 Apr 2005, 07:54

Well in all honesty there is never a good time to buy computer hardware
cause if you think i should you will never buy anything as there is always newer technolgy

[N]Haja

02 Apr 2005, 08:04

100% Ripper, thats what I was trying to say :P

Zyron

02 Apr 2005, 09:10

I once bought 512mb for R1200
1 month later the price dropped to R600 :(

sneaky

02 Apr 2005, 13:09

We have an idiots hobby :P

enemyanemone

02 Apr 2005, 15:43

You guys are approaching this the wrong way...

Rather upgrade regularly with "older" technology, than once in a blue moon with the newest stuff. That saves you lots of money.

Because the newest stuff that comes straight from the labs is usually not that much better than the models before, but twice as expensive, ie. you pay extra bucks just for being on the newest level, not for the technology itself.

Waiting a few months till (for example) the newest graphics card comes out IS WORTH IT, but only if you then buy the model that got replaced by this new technology.....
right ? :D

camel

02 Apr 2005, 16:40

thats the right approach enima ;)
:beer:

Elco

02 Apr 2005, 16:47

Not just China zyron. I saw one the other day myself ;P

Cataphract

04 Apr 2005, 16:09

Ok, so the Dell has arrived and is currently gracing the boot of my car.

Tonight I'll see what it can do and how good/bad it does it.

I'll post results later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Shrimp

04 Apr 2005, 16:13

Take a pic of it too :P

Cataphract

04 Apr 2005, 16:22

Sure, Shrimp, but no perving!

Xorac

04 Apr 2005, 16:49

What did u pay, or was it a sexual favour?

Cataphract

04 Apr 2005, 17:13

They cost R3,339 excl. VAT.

Xorac

05 Apr 2005, 10:20

Sure, Shrimp, but no perving!

I dont c anything to perv about yet. I did notice u playing online last nite though. Infact as i recall you where more accurate that usual ;) . Maul, maul u where mauling me. How is the screen?

Cataphract

05 Apr 2005, 10:45

Yes, Ok, busted. I played on the new screen.

I was too tired after playing to take pics and my den was a horrible mess anyway.

I've posted my review now.

Shrimp

05 Apr 2005, 10:58

Ok, then take some in-game screenshots for us to see :P

<A>FluX.v2.0

05 Apr 2005, 11:04

rofl

[N]Haja

05 Apr 2005, 11:20

lol, its like those adverts on TV
"check out the all new 3d sound and clearer picture"
"OMG I can see it and hear it, its amazing"

LOL, idiots :P