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Saint
15 Aug 2006, 12:16
Hello all, new on the forum, anywayz, i played UT last night and when i wanted to play this morning, i opened it and got some random Microsoft Visual C++ runtime error......

I tried updating C++ from microsoft, also used default .ini files, reinstalled the 3369 patch, nothing seems to help.......

And to completely re-install now will be suicide....

Anyone else got this before, please help if u can, i cant play now:(

Thanks guys

Saint

GM<Jaymac>MF
15 Aug 2006, 12:40
I have seen this error before, but I can't remember the exact cicumstances under which I got it. If I remember correctly, it has something to do with a corrupt or out of date ut2004.exe

It may have happened if you simply updated your game by copying instead of installing all the updates. Try reinstalling all the updates, and if that doesn't work, you need to either copy someone's UT2004 directory that you know works onto your machine (overwriting everything in your directory) or reinstall the game.

GM<Gorain>MF
15 Aug 2006, 12:49
Hi there,

i have also gotten this error before and found that a restart helped
but also make sure that you are up to date with all the updates and even try and download the latest one again i found i had a corrupt 1 that caused this error.

Good luck
hope to see you online again soon

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 13:18
Thanks guys, ive done all that, my UT worked fine for months, ive been kinda "building" up this specific one for over a year now, when i first came to Cape Town and started playing seriously, thats why i dont want to lose it now.

I also think it has got something to do with the .exe coz ive read on some other forums about people getting the same and just replacing the UT2004.exe, but where to find one for version 3369 is my problem. hehe....

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 13:22
you could perhaps back up all your maps, mutators, user.ini and ut2004.ini. Once you have done this, do a fresh install then copy these files back over. You may have to back up other files if you have added some to the static meshes folder etc, but it sounds like you need to reinstall ;\

also, one other thing, are you overclocking anything on your PC?

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 13:27
Im not overclocking anything in my pc, not yet, some things are still under warranty:D lol. Thing is, i dont have an original copy of the game, eeek, ya...

Ive just been trying to find a UT2004.exe for version 3369, easier said than done unless im blind.

Saint

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 13:29
well, there is a way to find the CD KEY of your UT2K4 in the registry. I cant quite recall how its done, perhaps try do a search in your registry for it. I know its there.... somewhere :p

GM<Jaymac>MF
15 Aug 2006, 13:29
Syzygy has a good idea there. I have done this a few times and it works fine. You shouldn't lose any of your setting etc...

If you're not keen to do that, go check your PM's :)

GM<Jaymac>MF
15 Aug 2006, 13:30
Oops, I meant, what Syz said about copying his maps etc...
Not the registry thing :)

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 13:32
LOL thanks guys, ive changed my key alot in the registry, i dont think that has got anything to do with Visual basic runtime errors....... I normally change my key after formatting my OS to play, no problems then.... In fact i formatted last night, played a game, went to mif, woke up this morning and i got the error.. Kinda weird with the whole fresh OS and all....

Saint

=_sNaKe_=
15 Aug 2006, 13:38
Good to see you found your way here, Saint. If you still haven't come right, I'll MSN you tomorrow and (hopefully) have the solution to your problems :D

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 13:47
Im glad i found my way here as well, if my UT didnt break i probably would not have been here, lol... Got desperate for some help coz i wanna play, specially now after changing my entire game, its working, making the game more addictive now......thanks man.

Just replaced the exe file and it gives the same error, looks like im destined to format for the second time in 24 hours, thank goodness for partitions:D

Saint

GM<Jaymac>MF
15 Aug 2006, 13:50
Ye... I have had the same problem. I fixed it by recopying the entire System directory from someone who had a working one. Obviously there is a corrupt file in there somewhere :)

Well, at least we tried. GL and I'll see you online later. :D

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 13:52
formatting is a mission ;\ main reason for this, is you have to back everything up and reinstall ALL those programs and games you use.

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 13:54
I have at least 4 system folders in my UT directory. One is a copy of how the system folder is on a fresh installation, the other is for playing on a lan, the other for playing on the net and lasty the other is for watching demos. after a while, the system folder does somehow become corrupt and you cant watch demos anymore ;\

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 13:59
lol, sounds like a plan, i normally just back up my ini files on 50 DVD's and 2 hard drives including an external, hehe, not really!!

Formatting goes quick, ive done it a million times.

Have any of u used some of the pro players config files? I downloaded gittzzz ini files and its actually working well..

Saint

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 14:03
yep, I have tried many of the pro ini files. you need to check them out and customise them to what you like. I found that Gitzzz used a POV of 85 which is very low ;\ Its great for aim... but, you feel as if you have blinkers on... cant see much around you at all. But, different strokes and all that

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 14:12
Very true, thats why its working so well considering on what my settings was for almost 2 years. Field of Vision of 120 to make the game "faster" (yeah whatever) and a mouse sens of 4.25 which was insanely high. NT terror still trained me and said i should try like that so i got use to a high paced game with a high mouse sens. Wasnt exaclty wroking but it worked great for those random freak shots, lol.

And about a week ago i changed my whole game, put my fov down to 100 and mouse sens to 0.75 and 1 for more close range weapons like flak etc etc. And its been rawking so far, works so much better, especially the fov change...:D

Now my UT breaks......GREAT! lol

thanks for all the advice guys

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 15:40
i have found 90 works well for me. I tried 100... i just couldnt get used to it. what mouse do you have? Many of us measure sensitivity by measuring how many cm's it takes for you to do a 180. I think if i recall correctly, i need 16cm for a 180 on UT. My mouse is an mx518... on 0.30 sens.

GM<Jaymac>MF
15 Aug 2006, 16:00
16cm! That's almost my whole desk! :D

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 16:05
hehe, it takes getting used to... but my shock combos are more consistent ;p and accuracy is a bit better. just depends on the day ;\ just need to get a better system to play on a 1280 resolution... that with a 19 inch monitor would be the best i reckon

Thallium
15 Aug 2006, 16:08
erm... i think your probably installing something else that's screwing around with versions of MFC..
like some one's home made crappy application with he's home made installer that probably replace's some of the C++ or MFC runtime files in windows with older versions...

it's not UT...

go look for a fix on the Microsoft sites

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 17:05
Hi guys, just redid my OS and im back in the game:D lol...

Yeah im playing on a FOV of 85, MX510 on a mouse sens of 0.75. Its great for lightning and shock aiming:rolleyes: How do u measure the amount of CM's it takes to do a 180? Would like to see where i am in that.....:confused:

For some reason gitzz gamma is set lank low but it makes u see the enemy more clear, its like a guy with this huge banner running around saying HIT ME U n00b and its actually working very well for me:D

I think the runtime error might have been caused by the .net fixes i installed for my graphics card, doesnt matter, its working just fine now.

Thanks for all the tips guys. Glad to be here:D

=_sNaKe_=
15 Aug 2006, 17:07
So you reckon you're going to widen the gap when we duel at the next LAN? :D

Saint
15 Aug 2006, 17:29
Reckon, lol, i bet im gonna tear it apart, lol, just joking man. I must first get use to the new config and stuff, the fact that i beat the stupid Godlike bot without him fragging me once doesnt mean anything in our next duel. But hey, im looking forward to it man:D

Syzygy78
15 Aug 2006, 19:12
yea, taking out godlike bots are very easy using the lightning gun and shock rifle. try take them out when you are up close and personal with a flak cannon... thats a completely different story ;p

if you want to measure how many CM you take for a 180, you can start up a game with no bots. pick a point on the screen (lets say its a line on the floor) and make a small mark where ur mouse is. move your mouse until you are back to the same line on the floor when you are facing the opp. direction. make a mark where your mouse ends (this mark must be made using lets say just the right side of the mouse). measure the distance btw. the 2 points, and voila!

Max˛
15 Aug 2006, 19:21
LOL

Saint
16 Aug 2006, 08:23
yea, taking out godlike bots are very easy using the lightning gun and shock rifle. try take them out when you are up close and personal with a flak cannon... thats a completely different story ;p

if you want to measure how many CM you take for a 180, you can start up a game with no bots. pick a point on the screen (lets say its a line on the floor) and make a small mark where ur mouse is. move your mouse until you are back to the same line on the floor when you are facing the opp. direction. make a mark where your mouse ends (this mark must be made using lets say just the right side of the mouse). measure the distance btw. the 2 points, and voila!


Yeah that is true, but luckily with a little of patience you can set ur mouse sens custom for each weapon, so i just made the sens for the flak cannon a bit higher for all those up close and personal combats. Personally i dont like it, hehe, shock and lightning are definately my favourite weapons......

cyghost
16 Aug 2006, 08:57
erm am I nitpicking when I point out its a 360 and not a 180? :)

mine is about 28cm on 0.25 - mx518

good to hear the saint man made it here and better to hear UT is sorted once more - OS: just the little program needed to run UT on ... I know a guys who's computer boots straight into UT :D lol

Saint
16 Aug 2006, 09:12
:D Talk about obsession, yeah Cyghost, just a little program needed to run UT, dammit:mad: lol, lets not got there:D

So we on for some duelling action tomorrow night, u bring the beer and ill buy the pizza:D

Anyone else wanna join us?

=_sNaKe_=
16 Aug 2006, 09:15
erm am I nitpicking when I point out its a 360 and not a 180? :)
lol no, since turning and facing the opposite direction is, in fact, 180 because its only half a revolution. Its ok, dude, leave the Maths to me and you can handle the lightning gun :D I still want a rematch for that Roughinery drubbing btw! :p

Saint
16 Aug 2006, 09:47
LOL, i have no idea what the 180 and 360 thing is all about, i just try and hit the enemy. hehe.

But from what syzygy said i can do it in +-18 cm on a mouse sens of .50...MX510...i think, hehe:D

Saint

cyghost
16 Aug 2006, 12:04
So we on for some duelling action tomorrow night, u bring the beer and ill buy the pizza:D

I am *there* m8! hope you have the adsl sorted

lol no, since turning and facing the opposite direction is, in fact, 180 because its only half a revolution. Its ok, dude, leave the Maths to me and you can handle the lightning gun :D I still want a rematch for that Roughinery drubbing btw! :p

now now snake ... how you know its *exactly* 180? 360 you find a point, like syzygy said, move your mouse right on the mouse pad *until you face the exact point once more* thats 360 in ANY math book :) and you are ON for a rematch!

Syzygy78
16 Aug 2006, 12:33
if you want to measure how many CM you take for a 180, you can start up a game with no bots. pick a point on the screen (lets say its a line on the floor) and make a small mark where ur mouse is. move your mouse until you are back to the same line on the floor when you are facing the opp. direction. make a mark where your mouse ends (this mark must be made using lets say just the right side of the mouse). measure the distance btw. the 2 points, and voila!

nooooo :P

I said move your mouse until you get to the same line and that you are facing the opposite direction ;)

for a quick example, if you stand parallel to a straight line and rotate until you are again parallel to the line, you would have done a 180 degree turn :cool:

Saint
16 Aug 2006, 12:36
LOL:D I did exactly that, problem is i didnt have a ruler anywhere in my apartment, i ran down to the computer store and borrowed one, haha, ill measure again when i play now.

Thanks Syzygy:D hehe

Syzygy78
16 Aug 2006, 12:41
what is your ingame name? ;p

or is that top secret!

Saint
16 Aug 2006, 12:46
:( :( LOL Its Saint.....but im not online all that often....loooooong story, we on superfast ADSL, free but ya...Theres a 3 meg line waiting for activation dedicated for gaming only. Its just a matter of time:D

Gonna call the admins now..i want to play....

cyghost
16 Aug 2006, 13:15
nooooo :P

for a quick example, if you stand parallel to a straight line and rotate until you are again parallel to the line, you would have done a 180 degree turn

k thats 180 then - but seems overly complicated ... with your crosshair on any point (no need to find any lines) move to the right untill your x-hair is on that exact point once more blah blah blah

nitpicking I was *sigh*

Syzygy78
16 Aug 2006, 13:16
reason why I dont do that, is I dont have a big enough mousepad ;p

cyghost
16 Aug 2006, 13:21
lol - k then - I get it .... I do it on the table myself (and I have a fairly big pad) :censored:

=_sNaKe_=
16 Aug 2006, 13:30
and I have a fairly big pad:censored:
You mean tray, dude? That thing's HUGE!!!! :eek:

cyghost
16 Aug 2006, 13:36
it is - I scare women with it :P erm.. what were we talking about again?

:D

Acid Burn
16 Aug 2006, 13:38
Dude you have elephant'titis u whip that thing out and u make horses run in fear fuck the table :P

cyghost
16 Aug 2006, 13:41
yeah! my mouse pad is 1337! but how do you like the bungee!!!

no one never commenst on my mouse BUNGEE

:(

Acid Burn
16 Aug 2006, 13:43
only a noob uses a BUNGEE it can be seen in your game play, or is it you are just trying to look 1337 mate ;)

cyghost
16 Aug 2006, 13:46
hey hey! OBVIOUSLY its for teh looks m8!! :) chicks dig it when they see my bungee

and players fear me

its all good