View Full Version : The Basillisk ESWC Predictions
D>Fantom
13 Apr 2005, 11:15
Stolen from http://www.nag.co.za/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=413
The final stages of the UT2K4 competition should be a lot less pre-determined than the Counter-Strike. This year there are four players with a chance of making it to the winner's podium.
42::Mburr
Karl "Mburr" Buys is South Africa's very own Fatal1ty, but thankfully not because he inserts a "1" randomly into his nickname. Mburr has won tournaments in three different games (Tribes 2, UT2003 and Doom 3) - a feat which no other local gamer can claim to have achieved. His skill in UT2K4 derives mainly from his raw FPS ability. Mburr picks up new games more quickly than any other player I've met, and this is testament to his natural talent. The only drawback is that he's generally unconcerned with pro-gaming and so doesn't put in nearly enough practice.
q6.Zero-1
By far the hardest working UT2K player in South Africa, one would feel that Jonathan "Zero-1" Attwell deserves a win after two years of finishing second and third. However, since he has yet to win a final match, this is a huge psychological barrier to overcome. Whether or not he can pull it off this time, I can't say for sure. His online play is looking particularly sharp, but as we all know, online is not LAN.
42::Gandulf
It feels rather strange that this is the first time I'm writing about this guy. Rikus "Gandulf" Jordaan has been around since the dawn of competitive gaming, and has finished top 3 in virtually every competition he entered. However, he's been on a bit of a real-life sabbatical and hasn't competed in almost three years. All hail the return of the true veteran. Gandulf doesn't take gaming the slightest bit seriously, and that's what makes him so dangerous.
42::Mielie
Otherwise known as The Sama (Japanese for The Boss), Nico-Louis "Mielie" Joubert became only the second South African player to advance out of his group during the World Cyber Games in San Francisco last year. On the local front, he has won every UT2K tournament he entered. An interesting bit of trivia: Mielie originally chose his nickname so that his opponents would underestimate him. He loves being the underdog. No luck there this time :P
The Verdict
While the final match will probably be a razor's edge, nail-biting three-mapper, it would be foolish to predict the eventual winner as anyone other than Mielie. He simply has too much experience, and he won the finals last year far too easily. Mburr is still the only player he loses to on a regular basis, and if it isn't Mburr with him in the final, it's probably game over from the start. Mburr hasn't been the most consistent player over the past year, but if he has an "on-day", he could pull it off. At last year's WCG qualifier his game looked shaky, resulting in his disappointing fourth place, but his head seems to be in the right place at the moment. Judging Zero-1's skill is always difficult (with him being in Cape Town), but since he no longer has a duel partner of Ph4ntom's calibre, I don't see him being on the same level as he was last year. Nevertheless, he has definitely put in more practice than the other three combined, and this will be the chance for him to really prove himself. Finally, Gandulf is the unmistakeable dark horse of the tournament, also capable of winning the whole thing. He has too much respect for Mielie though, and this will hinder him if he reaches the final.
The_Basilisk predicts:
1) 42::Mielie
2) 42::Mburr
3) 42::Gandulf
4) q6.Zero-1
5) 42::Nick
6) 42::ScrYe
7) {TA}.Mudd@();
8) {TA}.Knayda();
He does also do a prediction for CS and Warcraft as well but since this is a UT site, well you need to go some where else if you like those sort of games ;)
And 42 dominates the ranks :)
I always wondered why Mielie would choose a nickname like...well, Mielie :P
It's all the "practises" we have.
Wonder in which clan The Bassilisk is? :P
I spoke to Basilisk the other night, and the fact of the matter is that he is very active in the competitive scene, if not playing at least helping out. He knows his stuff :)
I would have put my money on Ph4ntom, if he actually practised :)
When I spoke to b2p - ph4ntom is not gonna make it -
The_Basilisk
13 Apr 2005, 23:17
Ph4ntom would undoubtedly be included in those predictions if he was coming...
Hey all.
Seems u have to have a few requirements to make it into the top3 in his predictions, these seem to be:
1: u must have a 42:: before ur nick
2: u must have a 42:: before ur nick
3: u must have a 42:: before ur nick
looks like comming top3 for the last couple events just isn't good enough :(
and for the record ph4ntom and i avoided each other like the plauge cause we were so competetive and ended up playing more q3 b4 wcg quallies than ut2004...
I'm not fussed really, its the same every year. CPT gamers allways get the raw end of the deal. Oh well, should be another 33 to -3 "miss prediction" on anton's behalf again.
looking forward to it :)
Jon
The_Basilisk
14 Apr 2005, 03:26
Quite frankly, with a prediction record of over 90% across three years, I think I'm doing rather well at it.
ESWC 2003 I predicted you 4th, you came 4th.
WCG 2003 I predicted you 3rd, you came 2nd.
WCG 2004 I predicted you 4th, you came 3rd.
Jon, congratulations for going one up on me in the last two events (and I do mean that sincerely), but I'd say I was pretty accurate on the whole. As always, we'll see.
-BSK
D>Fantom
14 Apr 2005, 09:22
looks like comming top3 for the last couple events just isn't good enough :(
So get out there and prove them wrong. Honestly if you thing the basillisk is showing a bit of favoritism, nothing would rub his face in it more than for you to win.
Anyway gl to you and everyone else playing.
Quite frankly, with a prediction record of over 90% across three years, I think I'm doing rather well at it.
ESWC 2003 I predicted you 4th, you came 4th.
WCG 2003 I predicted you 3rd, you came 2nd.
WCG 2004 I predicted you 4th, you came 3rd.
Jon, congratulations for going one up on me in the last two events (and I do mean that sincerely), but I'd say I was pretty accurate on the whole. As always, we'll see.
-BSK
:P
Typical journalist, 1 out of 3 he gets right, and says he's 90% correct. It's great he learnt English, but a bit of math would help 2. :P
Christ.
Lets start accusing him of rigging matches again.
GunJitsu
14 Apr 2005, 11:38
The Basilisk made a prediction, why are you guys so upset about it? If you don't agree with that prediction make your own one, here is mine:
1 - 42::Mielie (Mr Cool)
2 - 42::Gandulf (about time he plays in tournaments)
3 - (which ever clan he is in this week) Zero-1
4 - 42::Mburr (needs to work on his mental game)
5 - k4-krauzer (not sure if he's gonna be there)
6 - k4-vector (not sure if he's gonna be there)
7 - 42::Nick (I hope he has the aim he showed at wcg)
8 - 42::Scrye (has to be in the top 10)
Note: Jon grow up.
Cataphract
14 Apr 2005, 12:42
If the weather reporters were as accurate as that it would be great!
Judging from the fact that I couldn't even sneak into a spectator spot on the Duel Server at midnight last night indicates that the contenders are shaking off the flab and getting some serious training done.
It's going to be great.
LOL
Remember: its only a game.
Your net financial worth and "status" in life aint deteremed by the eswc competition.
LOL
Remember: its only a game.
Your net financial worth and "status" in life aint deteremed by the eswc competition.
No you sound just like a SA rugby player.
Cataphract
14 Apr 2005, 13:07
Thank God! I'd be dead broke and have been thrown out of toll-booth school!
MaXimus
14 Apr 2005, 13:35
I was going to join the comp also, but they didn't allow me with my pink nick. :P
D>Fantom
14 Apr 2005, 13:38
Christ.
Lets start accusing him of rigging matches again.
ok......he rigged matches ;)
I'm not fussed really, its the same every year. CPT gamers allways get the raw end of the deal. ;)
Cataphract
14 Apr 2005, 14:34
As the other chaps said, simply make them eat their words.
]H[ellboy
14 Apr 2005, 14:39
my predictions:
1.) ]H[BeLgaRiOn
2.) ]H[BeoTeK
3.) ]H[Cataphract
4.) ]H[Eclipse
5.) ]H[ellboy
6.) ]H[EvilCow
7.) ]H[GunJitsu
8.) ]H[Hyker
9.) ]H[LeG@cY
10.) ]H[Sequ3L
11.) ]H[sneaky
12.) ]H[Spectre
13.) ]H[Target
14.) ]H[TheProven
15.) ]H[Zyron
16.) Any Helix memebr I might have left out, my apologies!
MaXimus
14 Apr 2005, 14:43
Hmmm, this is starting to look like a major clan match in the making... ;)
MaNiC's ESWC Predictions:
1. q6`zero-1
2. q6`MaNiC
3. q6`My mom
4. q6`My dad (even though he has placed top 3 in the last few major tourneys)
5. q6`My dog
6. q6`My favourite colour (blue)
7. q6`My granny (out of form since WCG 2003)
8. 42:: someone
I am right 99.99999% of the time.
Cataphract
14 Apr 2005, 15:44
LOL @ Hellboy's post! Alphabetically nogal! Damn! I should have selected a nick starting with an A.
Guys,
sorry to change the topic.... ;)
Are any demo's going to be recorded.
Laters
Nev
my prediction is ..............
1.) Z1
2.) MI (i think it would be btween this two for 1st place not sure who will win)
3.) Gandulf
4.) Kanyda
5.) mburr
6.) nick
7.) mudda
8.) ...................dono
My prediction
1.<A> Macera
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The rest of you losers down there ^_^ JJK :D
nice list sip, I'm 100% with u. :)
Boogeyman
14 Apr 2005, 18:18
What makes the comp more interesting is that the players are using their own rigs....
As for predictions i hope Jon places in the top 3....I am quite sure that one of the ::42 guys will win. As for Sip and Knayda..well whats counts against them is their lack of experience.
I have no idea how Scrye made the seedings...cause he really is average.
Correct me if I am wrong....But the K4 guys are not playing in the UT comp.
The question I want to ask is ...WHY IS NAUTILLIAN NOT PLAYING?...he could go really far and on form he is one of tuffest guys to beat.
]H[ellboy
14 Apr 2005, 18:22
Boogeyman']What makes the comp more interesting is that the players are using their own rigs....
As for predictions i hope Jon places in the top 3....I am quite sure that one of the ::42 guys will win. As for Sip and Knayda..well whats counts against them is their lack of experience.
I have no idea how Scrye made the seedings...cause he really is average.
Correct me if I am wrong....But the K4 guys are not playing in the UT comp.
The question I want to ask is ...WHY IS NAUTILLIAN NOT PLAYING?...he could go really far and on form he is one of tuffest guys to beat.
problem is almost everybody wants to do him greaviously bodily harm even more so than supa Terr0r dickwad..... I'm not sure why.....
]H[ellboy
14 Apr 2005, 18:23
LOL @ Hellboy's post! Alphabetically nogal! Damn! I should have selected a nick starting with an A.
hey don't complain you made top 3!
Thats bullshit ]H[ellboy.
I rox more th3n joo & c4t4!!
1 d3m4nd 2 b3 m0\/3D fr0m 16th int0 t3h top 0/\/3!!111!11!!
/me *rox* *rox* *rox*
problem is almost everybody wants to do him greaviously bodily harm even more so than supa Terr0r dickwad..
????????? who r they ? ???
Argh, produce a better seed list Boogeyman.
Nautilian isn't playing because he's full of shit and wont sign up.
]H[ellboy
14 Apr 2005, 18:41
SiP']????????? who r they ? ???
couple of lebs I know ;)
]H[ellboy
14 Apr 2005, 18:42
Thats bullshit ]H[ellboy.
I rox more th3n joo & c4t4!!
1 d3m4nd 2 b3 m0\/3D fr0m 16th int0 t3h top 0/\/3!!111!11!!
/me *rox* *rox* *rox*
turn the list upside down and your a winner!
Boogeyman
14 Apr 2005, 18:46
Argh, produce a better seed list Boogeyman.
Nautilian isn't playing because he's full of shit and wont sign up.
Just pulling your leg Scrye...
D>Fantom
14 Apr 2005, 19:02
MaNiC's ESWC Predictions:
1. q6`zero-1
2. q6`MaNiC
3. q6`My mom
4. q6`My dad (even though he has placed top 3 in the last few major tourneys)
5. q6`My dog
6. q6`My favourite colour (blue)
7. q6`My granny (out of form since WCG 2003)
8. 42:: someone
I am right 99.99999% of the time.
Brilliant....
BTW who do I bribe to get into your list?
I'm the wildcard entry no one suspects (because I'm not even going) who wins it ;)
So ummm, if us Naja boyz form a protective human shield around nuts, you okes reckon he'll play? :) Greek Mafia vs. the Lebs. Tough one... :P
couple of lebs I know ;)
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
do i know u? hellboy?
-=BeLgaRiOn=-
14 Apr 2005, 19:36
Wow, thanks Hellboy :P .
First place, whee ;) !
Are any demo's going to be recorded.
Laters
Nev
I'll be sure to record mine and put them up on the QuadrantSix website as soon as i get back ;)
You got the 1st 3 possitions correct Sip ...dunno 'bout the other possitions. My guess is knayda, Mudda, vektor, Krauser, Sameer if he's playing, yourself and Elco...not in that order though....
Brilliant....
BTW who do I bribe to get into your list?
I'm the wildcard entry no one suspects (because I'm not even going) who wins it ;)
I don't know how to say this D>Fantom, but my list is biased :( . The only way to get on my list is to kill my dog (aka q6`My dog) and join q6.
*My favourite colour is now red so blue can't make it. :(
GunJitsu
14 Apr 2005, 20:38
Max, you high again? knayda mudda vector sameer and eclo above mburr and nick??? Are you nuts? No wonder you get banned on IRC channels, 42:: will rule competitions because they have the experience and train the correct way. If any of you watched 42::Mielies performance at the wcg you wouldn't have him anywhere but the top of the list. I'm sure Zero 1 is really good at painkiller now, but I doubt he has what it takes to beat mielie in UT.
Just shows how much you know Gunjitsu...
And yes, I do agree to the fact that 42 has a high level skill overall
GunJitsu
14 Apr 2005, 20:49
Prove me wrong.
enemyanemone
14 Apr 2005, 22:07
all i know is elco can own mburr...
GunJitsu
14 Apr 2005, 22:13
Enemyanemone have you ever seen mburr or mielie duel? Its competition duelling not online ffa, beeeeeeg difference. I wish every player all of the best, the more good players we get the better for za ut gaming.
[N]Haja
14 Apr 2005, 22:18
if the duels gonna have deemers in them, I may just sign up :)
Gun u have to realise that they know each others games(Mburr & Mielie)...playing someone u know squate about and havnt strategised with is also very different...then offcoarse u have the odd luck involved....but hey, the okes rock not to mention they are kewl okes...well Mburr at least, dont know the cobb to well.
Yeah I'm sure Mburr is very fond of you too :D
We'll let the results speak for themselves, boys.
Scrye ....put a sock in it son !
Like Mburr says let the results speak ...we can try to predict all we want, runt and rave but at the end of the day the results will speak
oh dear....there he goes again...tsk ,tsk...we all know u dont have any real friends and u hide behind ure monitor...so just take a seat and let adults talk here sonny ...come now shoo...shoo.... off with you :D...hehehehehehehe,,,,
Dont u have a irc channel to play with?
Wow, that was original. I suppose the next reply you make will be one threatening me with physical harm at the next lan you probably wont attend?
Uhm... Stuff you all! I AM GONNA WIN! and stuff... and you want to know why? Cause I am just so good I dont even have to be on a stupid list! so THERE! tee heeee
I will see all you fools there! Grrrawrr!
Well I guess it's settled then.
There scrye goes again, brace yourselves :D
I suppose the next reply you make will be one threatening me with physical harm
Naah that last one kinda owned:D
]H[ellboy
15 Apr 2005, 00:18
phuullleeeezzzzeee take all the top 8 players throw them in a FFA with me on a good day when my nails are clean & my undies are washed and I'll ownz all.....
In any case, I got my money on mielie aka livid.... then on Carl.... I hope Jonathan does well too as no matter how we use to disagree he does deserve a good seating this year......
I know players like Elco, Knayda, and mudd are good but I'm not sure if they will really rock the boat too much. Good luck in trying and have some fun while your're @ it!
Stu are you talking about that clostrophobic gay noomz in the channel?
Bel you are t3h dude!
]H[ellboy
15 Apr 2005, 00:23
Go fuck yourself you stupid git.
Anyway, you people are all forgetting n00mz, who could very well cause some upsets.
I say stupid git Son!
Nautilian
15 Apr 2005, 01:57
H[ellboy']problem is almost everybody wants to do him greaviously bodily harm even more so than supa Terr0r dickwad..... I'm not sure why.....
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL! That is a first.
And to answer everybody's question, I am trying to register BUT "Registrations for this competition are full" So I am trying to see if a plan can be made, but I think not.
Naut
Nautilian
15 Apr 2005, 02:02
My list:
1) Gandulf/MI/Z-1 (I would say the finals IMHO would be MI vs Z1, though GANS can pull something out the hat, no doubt there)
2)
3)
4)Mburr/Knayda (Would put Mburr in the top 3 if his mindset it right this tourney)
5)
6)Sip/Scrye (Scrye has lots of experience, maybe even sitting in Knaydas spot)
7)
8)Nick/Noomz
9)
10)...
The reason I do not put any other players is I either do not know their skill or I do not know how they will handel tournament pressure. So please do not get offended if you not here.
Naut
The_Basilisk
15 Apr 2005, 02:04
What makes a topic like this so satisfying in the end is that we actually do get to find out who was right. Heh.
-BSK
lol me? pffft please? I don't belong on any list.
Hellboy, I don't think you're qualified to be on this forum.
Like Mburr says let the results speak ...we can try to predict all we want, runt and rave but at the end of the day the results will speak
All hail Mburr, would you like to suck his dick while you're at it?
My predictions
1) Elco
99) Me
6) Nautilian
3) Hyker
9) Boogyman
12) Beotek
4) Target
Makes as much sense as the rest of these posts...
Naut, just come prepared - we will get in the comp one way or another -
I will chat with len - dont worri if its not on the web site.
For u geeks - errrr sorri , greeks - we make plans :)
See ja there.
[N]Haja
15 Apr 2005, 07:24
"sometimes its best to keep quite and let people think your an idiot, than to open your mouth, and prove them right"
D>Fantom
15 Apr 2005, 07:45
ah, this post brings back memories of the old unrealza :eek:
[N]Haja
15 Apr 2005, 07:47
whats a BOFH D>Fantom? (Big Overweight Fuc%$ing Halfwit?) :P
And people say UT is dead...
MaXimus
15 Apr 2005, 08:19
Naaaaah, it's just slightly mutilated.
[N]Haja
15 Apr 2005, 08:30
The forums have always been very busy and popular,its the servers where the actual game is played that are dead. Although I must say, recently it has been picking up with at least 8-10 ppl on nightly, most times a good 6-8 man a side ctf game happens during the night :)
[a4a]oddball
15 Apr 2005, 08:32
And 42 dominates the ranks :)
I always wondered why Mielie would choose a nickname like...well, Mielie :P
Cause its typical ZA.
Something he can identify himself
I guess
: )
Cataphract
15 Apr 2005, 09:32
Nautilian, Evilcow has withdrawn and so has Biogizzard. You sure it's full?
Hellboy wrote:
throw them in a FFA with me on a good day when my nails are clean & my undies are washed and I'll ownz all.....
So you say it's NEVER going to happen! LOL {joke}.
Well, the Arena77 has either not been updated yet, or they are really full...
I really hope there is a spot for Nuts! :)
Cataphract
15 Apr 2005, 09:43
It would kind of be like the para - olympics without South Africa there if Naut doesn't play. he he he
]H[ellboy
15 Apr 2005, 15:36
Cat I said when........ it will happen
I had to find a way to get you to repond nauty boy!
]H[ellboy
15 Apr 2005, 15:39
This is the best competition spirit I've ever seen from any of you fuckwads... tis a good thing :D
IMO the whole ballgame will change if nuts plays!
Mielie,Z1,Nuts,Gands...top 4 positions not in that order necesarily (WTF is my dictionary)
Karnaugh wrote: All hail Mburr, would you like to suck his dick while you're at it?
Go swivvel on your finger, ass.
Hmm, I'm more interested in the team games thats going to go down.
But I would like to see Gandulf take the 1v1s cause that would just
be classic. Honestly, any of the good experienced players could take this.
My predictions:
1) Mielie
2/3/4/5/6) Gan/Naut/b2p/mburr/kynanda (in any order)
7...56> . . .. . ..
arrrrg alll hell is breaking loose :)
Anyways should be some excellent demos to review.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL! That is a first.
And to answer everybody's question, I am trying to register BUT "Registrations for this competition are full" So I am trying to see if a plan can be made, but I think not.
Naut
Looks like today is your lucky day. There are three open spots.
My predictions:
1) 42::Mielie
2) 42::Gandulf
3) q6`zero-1
4) 42::Nick
5) 42::The_Basilisk
6) 42::Scrye
As for places 7 and 8, I'd say it'll be two of the following five players making up those positions, depending on the kind of draws they get:
mudd@, Knayda, SiP, n00mz, White_Trash
Personally I don't think WT has gotten enough credit in this thread. As for me, I don't think I've been practicing enough to make top 8, as my online game shows.
<A>FluX.v2.0
16 Apr 2005, 11:11
I though "online" and "lan" where totally different?
rofl
*shrugs*
That really depends on your style of play. Some are perfectly suited, and others just aren't.
<A>FluX.v2.0
16 Apr 2005, 11:32
I have some very bad days online, and some very good ones, but then I just love playing on lan, because I allways have good days :p
http://www.karnaugh.za.net/stuff/huh.png
EvilCow
17 Apr 2005, 12:20
My Predictions:
1.) Malcolm
2.) Gorge
3.) Mr.Crow
4.) Ambrosia
5.) Domina
6.) Renegade
7.) Frostbite
I agree with Mielie, I'm looking forward to some kewl TDMs. The politics in 1v1s gets abit much, but yeah it should be a kewl weekend. I'm going to smoke lots of hubbly, drink lots of beer and have fun. Everybody else is welcome to stress about who finishes where and who does what, I'm not fussed. I rather acouple other 42 players would agree. :)
]H[ellboy
17 Apr 2005, 21:33
Hubbly! Mint tobacco! :D
gotta agree had one tonight..... again
Cataphract
18 Apr 2005, 10:38
So, has Mr Nautilian registered?
Well, he is on the list. :)
I predict Top5 for my boy!
187<>Ceasar~
18 Apr 2005, 10:44
Good luck Naut. Hope U show them all what a real pro is like.
What? hard on the outside and soft on the inside?
Cataphract
18 Apr 2005, 11:36
I predict Top5 for my boy!
I think some previously made predictions need some revision now.
Naaaah, I much prefer the darkhorse approach. :)
Last time I spoke to Nuts however, he assured me that he is not aiming for the nr1 spot.
It sounds like this lan is goona be the party!!! for the one who forgot about predictions and want to have fun. Da-grEEns-Master will be there. So for the 1's who want stuff for their hubbly and tea. For the boerie, i don't have stuff, but I do have stuffed boerie, and space cake and some... muffins(hopefully).
Thinice
19 Apr 2005, 15:26
I feel sick :eek:
The_Basilisk
20 Apr 2005, 00:27
Agreed, with the new information that's come to light, my predictions need revision.
Mburr has been to a grand total of one practise this entire year and probably won't be at any more, and Nautilian's entry also shakes things up a bit. The top 5, I believe,will be very close.
I'm rather busy atm (when am I not?) so I'll just post a new list here without a proper write-up.
1) 42::Mielie
2) 42::Gandulf
3) q6.Zero-1
4) [N]Nautilian
5) 42::Mburr
6) 42::Nick
7) 42::ScrYe
8) {TA}.Mudda();
It's also difficult to say for certain with regards to positions 4-8, since they're working off a random draw into the double elimination (1sts vs 2nds).
As for the team games, anyone care to hazard a guess? :P
Wh1tE_Tr4sH
20 Apr 2005, 01:12
[Naja] fot teh win..!!! :redeemer:
Floruro
20 Apr 2005, 02:17
What are the sizes of the teams of ctf or tdm challenges? 6vs 6 or 7 vs 7?
i might be wrecked at the ESWC, but good luck Naja ;)
Thank God! I'd be dead broke and have been thrown out of toll-booth school!
Jip, and now you'r a lawyer...
;-)
Cataphract
21 Apr 2005, 14:06
mmmmmm.....good point....Maybe I'll have another look at that toll both manual....
187<>Ceasar~
21 Apr 2005, 17:29
1) [N]Nautilian
2) 42::Gandulf
3) q6.Zero-1
4) 42::Mielie
Yep thats the way its going to be.
Wel if there is going to be a team comp dont think naja will take part in it as there is only three of us attending(/me glares at haja with demon eyes ) i think ? naut , myself , WT excuse me any others if i did not see ur nicks ...
I didn't know there was a team comp, otherwise I would be there...
What are the sizes of the teams of ctf or tdm challenges? 6vs 6 or 7 vs 7?
i might be wrecked at the ESWC, but good luck Naja ;)
wat he said G
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