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Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 10:42
I was just wondering who agrees that south africa needs an autobahn, it sucks having to drive cars ment for speeds well over 120, under 120.

[N]Haja
08 Apr 2005, 10:44
hmmm, the taxi drivers in dbn think its an autobahn allready!

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 10:46
lol

Gamos
08 Apr 2005, 10:47
I have heard a story about a huge company actually surveying South Africa for that exact same thing, but that it was decided that South Africans can't drive, propably due to the taxis etc. Can you imagine a taxi doing 80km/h getting a free ride in the autobahn?

enemyanemone
08 Apr 2005, 10:50
If you get rid of the k53 shi* and teach people how to drive properly instead, then yes (to the autobahn).

(ban all taxis from any road, not only the freeway)

Scrye
08 Apr 2005, 11:01
If you get rid of the k53 shi* and teach people how to drive properly instead, then yes (to the autobahn).

(ban all taxis from any road, not only the freeway)

Lol? How is the majority of this country supposed to get to work then?

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 11:03
they can walk

Scrye
08 Apr 2005, 11:07
How old are you?

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 11:12
not important....
anyway what dif does that make?

enemyanemone
08 Apr 2005, 11:12
Other countries also managed to set up a working bus sytem, with regulated bus plans and stops. If you tell me that you are willing to accept the minibus taxis as a successful part of the infrastructure, visit a first world country. A taxi is something great, its a job and so is a bus as such, but these guys are roadhogs.

Cataphract
08 Apr 2005, 11:13
Dominate, I noticed from driving on the Autobahn in Germany that you need 2 basic things to make them work: firstly you need all of the cars on the road to be good quality cars with good performance, and secondly, you need drivers that match the cars.

Germans drive good cars and they drive them well. (They ship all their old cars to Poland and Turkey.)

The majority of South Africans drive mobile chicken coops (with actual chickens in them) and have bought their licences, which they can't read because their too drunk. (A previous member of parliament comes to mind.)

I reckon its asking for trouble to drive at speeds in excess of 200km/h on roads shared by drivers, pedestrians and livestock, all of equal sophistication.

hai2u
08 Apr 2005, 11:14
Old enough to test drive a E55 "apparently".

The autobahn only works because they have a cell-distance method of opperation and cameras that watch it. If you follow a car too closely, you get fined.

The same might work in SA - except our roads are not up to the standard, thats the whole bloody reason for the speed limits. The camber of the road and surface shaping is calculated and designed for certain speeds and friction and even reaction time.

people cant even respect following distance at 120kmph, so I cant see it working for 200kmph.

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 11:14
with 2010 coming up, they said they want to upgrade the bus and train service and that they were thinking of getting subways and everything, ya well its 2005 and doesnt look like theyve even started thinking bout upgrading

Scrye
08 Apr 2005, 11:15
And you just said all taxis should be banned?

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 11:16
ok this is how it happened,my dad bought a merc, and on the showroom floor was a E55 AMG, so my dad asked the rep if he could test drive it, so they set up a date, when the time came and my dad was test driving it, the rep asked me if i had a licence and she said i could drive home, i wasnt the one racing against the 1100 or going 200, fastest i did was bout 160

enemyanemone
08 Apr 2005, 11:18
200 kmph?? Lol, i was driving on the autobahn on one of the many parts that have no speed limit the other day and thought I was fast going 185 (absolute max i can make :D), when i spotted a yellow rocket in my rear mirror. Quickly moved on to the right side and past me shot a ferrari sounding like an aeroplane, he was gone as fast as he came, i can only imagine how fast he was :/

enemyanemone
08 Apr 2005, 11:21
And you just said all taxis should be banned?

I thought you know what I actually meant

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 11:30
well if u look at the states, not that ive ever been there, have a friend that has, he says all you see is yellow (taxis) but those are the civilized kind, well, more than in SA

Cataphract
08 Apr 2005, 11:30
HAHAHAHA! At one stage I was sitting in the SLOW LANE at 170km/h with people in the middle lane coming past me like I was looking for parking.

In SA the BMW drivers are normally quite the speedsters, in Germany I noticed mostly Mercedes as being the fastest non-sports cars coming past me, especially all the AMG models, both Petrol and Diesel. The other noticeable low-flyers were the Porsche Cayenne SUV's. Ze Germans also have access to 98 unleaded fuel. Yummy!

187<>ZinaGiN~
08 Apr 2005, 11:32
mmmm. i love germany, wish i could go there

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 11:34
Cataphract, u from Germany? i wish i could just go to drive a car at that speed, but only a merc, something with good handling, i was in the car with someone i work with the other day and he was driving his renault scenic at 120 down de waal drive, i thought i was gonna die!

Cataphract
08 Apr 2005, 11:42
Nope. I'm from right here. I have friends in Stuttgart that I visit every year, sometimes twice a year.

You should see the Merc HQ in Stuttgart (Untertürkheim). WOW! It's a city on its own. They have their own suburbs and their own dedicated offramps off the freeways etc. including a football stadium.

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 11:48
i wish SA could come even close to that, i have german friends who live here and they subscribe to german car magasines, the cars that are produced for germany, i couldnt even dream of seeing, there are so many models that dont even get mentioned in SA

[N]Haja
08 Apr 2005, 12:14
well if u look at the states, not that ive ever been there, have a friend that has, he says all you see is yellow (taxis) but those are the civilized kind, well, more than in SA

Yup, you see LOTS of yellow taxis, but they are mainly in cities, and in the close surrounding areas.

In USA the drivers are excellent, they obey the speedlimit (well, the mojority) are very courteous, and all in all drive well. And yes, I do know tis, I drove around the USA for 3 months, before some smartass asks how I know this :P

Dominate
08 Apr 2005, 12:18
how do u know this? where u there?

BeTraYeL
08 Apr 2005, 12:25
Autobahn here would never work cos of most of the beat up cars south africans drive. Most south africans don't maintain our cars well enough. I think raise the limit to 160

sneaky
08 Apr 2005, 12:46
We should be happy with what we have Australia and the US have allready brought speed limits down too 100Km/h on freeways and 50Km/h in suburban areas + they "can" actually enforce it...it made me insane.

Cataphract
08 Apr 2005, 13:01
I get the "Auto-Motor und Sport" and the "Bild Auto" from Germany every month :D

Pox
08 Apr 2005, 15:09
Removing the speed limits would be a very, very stupid thing to do in this country. Doing 120km/h and coming around a corner at night behing a truck with no working lights doing 60km/h is bad enough. Doing 250km/h and coming across the same thing is instant roadkill.

On second thought it might get rid of all those prick BMW drivers, they would kill themselves off pretty quickly...

Scrye
08 Apr 2005, 16:28
And Thabo and Sipho in their Jaguars/Mercs/Beemers.

BeTraYeL
08 Apr 2005, 16:30
lol

Pox
08 Apr 2005, 16:47
Explain to me why a MP needs 4 BMW X5's to get to work?

Scrye
08 Apr 2005, 20:35
Because he never had them during Apartheid.

-=BeLgaRiOn=-
08 Apr 2005, 20:39
Try the S500 or perhaps the E500 for rural MPs ;) .

Nevets
09 Apr 2005, 08:15
SPEED LIMIT !!!


We have a speed limit, omg.......lol

bl@d3
09 Apr 2005, 12:29
my speed limit is limited to as fast as my car will go :)

-=BeLgaRiOn=-
09 Apr 2005, 12:37
I'll only go above the speed limit again when I can afford my own speeding fines :P . Gran isn't too impressed when she gets tickets sent to her :P (Car is registered to her, mwahahah)

Divexo
11 Apr 2005, 08:38
Because he never had them during Apartheid.
LOL - Nicely put

Elco
11 Apr 2005, 08:47
Germans drive good cars and they drive them well. (They ship all their old cars to Poland and Turkey.)

Also known as theft :D

Cataphract
11 Apr 2005, 09:08
LOL! naaah, not really. It doesn't work like SA everywhere.

Dominate
14 Apr 2005, 11:40
went along a winding road with a german in a new A3 2.0 TDi at 180km/h im sure he thought it was the autobahn, it was tad scary.

who has seen the new A3 sportback

MaXimus
14 Apr 2005, 13:33
Because he never had them during Apartheid.

LOL, but we whities also didn't have BMW X5's back then. ;)

Dominate
14 Apr 2005, 13:39
ya but us whites arent in the govt, therefore we do not have the oppotuntity to be corrupt and get away with it

sneaky
14 Apr 2005, 13:57
ya but us whites arent in the govt, therefore we do not have the oppotuntity to be corrupt and get away with it

Yes but they were. I dont see your point???

crash
14 Apr 2005, 15:51
Whats the point of creating an Autobahn when you can't even do the speed limit half the time, on the highways we have.

You have the left hand lane which no one uses, why I don't know. Maybe it has ebola. People would rather sit in the middle lane blocking up the traffic.
You have the middle lan which has morons driving anywhere between 60 and 100 kph.
Then the right hand lane which can have cars travelling between 10 and 180kph.

OR you have a truck in the left hand lane, and one in the middle lane dicing each other up a hill. And half the planet in the right hand trying to get past them.....

Why is it that a 4 ton or 40 ton truck licence is easier to get than getting a k53 licence?
If you are driving a 40 ton truck you should really be better at driving than a normal driver.
In South Africa we give fucktards a 40 ton killing machine and wonder why so many people get killed on the roads???

MaXimus
14 Apr 2005, 16:05
True.... true...